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Criticism
VS, like it or not, does have legitimate criticism from religious and women's organizations, and that criticism shows up every year the Fashion Show occurs. You can check any major newspaper for their pre-Fashion Show article and they will devote a paragraph to the critics. Therefore, we will too, and any attempt to delete the criticism will be quickly reverted. Calwatch 04:16, 14 March 2006 (UTC)
These are pictures of women wearing VS's Product? What are you expecting to see on their site, Eskimos in parkas?
Speaking of criticism, shouldn't something be mentioned about Victoria's Secret using unnecessary amounts of virgin paper when printing their catalogs?
True. There has been critisism from lots of groups and organizations. We should at least mention it... Snowonster 02:42, 1 February 2007 (UTC)
why isnt this bigger?
its sorta small for such a large company.
---On that note, it could deffo use more info on the differences between the collections VS offers, e.g., IPEX, secret embrace, angels, emma, body by victoria... the section on lovepink is a good start.
More Photos
I suggest that there be MORE, MORE I TELL YA photos of Victoria's Secret supermodels featuring the company's products (i.e. langerie) accompanying this article for informational and educational purposes.--Ruthless4Life 13:56, 26 May 2006 (UTC)
Informational and educational? Sorry, we all know what you're looking for. The VS article won't be edited to include tons and tons of erotica.
I would agree that more photos should be used.--Cooly123 (talk) 14:32, 3 May 2009 (UTC)
How the Name was Selected
I would really like to include a section if possible, of how the person came up with the name of "Victoria's Secret". What Victoria was he referencing? Queen Victoria? Why did he decide to do this.
Name has nothing to do with Queen Victoria at all. Victoria was simply a name the founder (Roy Raymond) thought sounded sophisticated. While behind most names there are great marketing stories (such as a train ride in Europe when Mr. Raymond met a beautiful woman with gorgeous lingerie just barely showing from beneath her blouse), the truth is often bland, as is the case here.
Removal of advertising
Removed the following paragraph, since it reads like advertising:
(talk to) Caroline Sanford 03:58, 19 December 2006 (UTC)
Smart choice. Definitely sounds like advertising to me. Snowonster 02:43, 1 February 2007 (UTC)
controversy
Shouldn't be a part mentioning the criticism of the ultra-conservative United States society
The article should include lawsuits brought against Victoria Secret and the rulings, such as Ronit Menashe and Audrey Quock vs. Victoria's Secret Catalogue, Victoria's Secret Stores, Beauty Corporation d/b/a Victoria's Secret Beauty, and Victoria's Secret Direct, LLC (2005). This case was brought on my the plaintiff's use of the term "Sexy Little Thing, Sexy Little Things" which was confusingly similar to Victoria's Secret "Sexy Little Thing" lingerie line. The court ruled that even though Quock was unbeknown to the use of Victoria's Secret "Sexy Little Thing" when she started her company in August of 2004, Victoria's Secret had priority over the trademarked term because of the term used in stores was in July 2004. --Preceding unsigned comment added by 155.97.14.9 (talk) 18:00, 11 November 2010 (UTC)
removed lengthy list of supermodels featured on fashion shows
The information was simply excessive and unnecessary. mirageinred 22:38, 15 February 2007 (UTC)
But why is there no mention of Yasmeen Ghauri here?
Location?
If it's based in San Francisco, then why is it in Category:Companies based in Ohio? --Sakaki22 18:53, 20 April 2007 (UTC)
Company details?
How about some company details please? Number of stores? CEO? etc. Sure, the fashion stuff is fun and guys can drool over the pictures but there's no details here.
Products
I was hoping someone can elaborate more about VS Beauty products, Angels, Secret Embrace, IPEX, Very Sexy, Body, etc. I would love to but I haven't found any references. (Number1spygirl 04:53, 27 July 2007 (UTC)).
This is Blatant Advertising
This page is as much blatant advertising as any other page discussing the history of a company. Why is Victoria's Secret allowed to "advertise" here and other companies have their pages removed just because they are small and just getting started?
R.L
President/CEO <company name removed by Dweller> --Preceding unsigned comment added by 141.153.63.219 (talk) 02:57, 20 September 2007 (UTC)
What's the secret?
If it is Vicoria's Secret, then what's the 'secret' the company name refers to? Jacob Poon 21:49, 23 November 2007 (UTC) Angelo Retita is THE SECRET!!!! ssHhhHhsSh..... ;) --Preceding unsigned comment added by 202.84.106.196 (talk) 20:42, 5 November 2008 (UTC)
Though much has been said about the models, no one has mentioned how Victorias secrets came into existence. I had the opportunity of attending a business quiz where a question was asked on the founder. I dont exactly remember, but the person had something to do with internships or something similar. If anyone gets such iformation, please be kind enough to post.Unik1985 (talk) 09:25, 29 February 2008 (UTC)
Customer service
As several people have noted, this article makes no mention of Victoria's Secret's aggressive customer service/credit card sales, which is a key aspect of the company and has caused a bit of controversy as well. If nobody objects, I am going to add information about this, I'll keep it NPOV and verifiable. Thanks. OhMyLola (talk) 18:40, 2 April 2008 (UTC)
Izabel Goulart
is no longer an angel..was confirmed on fashionspot.com --Preceding unsigned comment added by 203.87.79.25 (talk) 01:22, 17 November 2008 (UTC)
Emanuela de Paula
Is Emanuela De Paula really the new angel?
Why she isn't in the list of angels? --Preceding unsigned comment added by 189.92.235.122 (talk) 22:43, 18 May 2009 (UTC)
adding a note towards the Sonata arctica song Victoria's Secret?
wouldn't it be applicable to add a note somewhere saying that the Finnish PowerMetalband Sonata Arctica made a song about this company? Victoria's_Secret_(song) --Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.207.48.216 (talk) 14:41, 5 December 2008 (UTC)
Ratings, fashion show information
update the ratings for the fashion shows as well as a general discription of the show and its theme, where it took place? and models appearing on each fashion show. The 2008 show had an encore showing on the cw on 12/17/08 the rating of this show should be noted in the chart as well. `````.
Karolina Kurkova Contact
It is a long suspected subject that model Karolina Kurkova's contract with Victoria's Secret has expired in March of 08. She was signed with the company in 2005 to a three year contract (like the rest of the angels exception being Adriana, Alessandra, and in the past Gisele) and has since expired. News reports from fox news and many other sorts have claimed that she was nearly not allowed in the show, when it's printed and spoken in videos where the angels are guaranteed a spot in the show no matter what. She had one campaign last year, and was not in the mainstream Christmas commercial, and was not at the launch of the new Victoria's Secret Store in Lexington when all the angels participated (except for Adriana who had a family emergency, but showed up the next day) While this could all be placed under speculation, askmen which is a reliable site placed on their profile that "word is she will not be returning as an angel in 2009. But staring in..." With all of her information correct and a company that could back up the facts, I don't think it's an unreliable source. Now if this is not to be included Izabel Goulart should be included on the roster...for their is no "source" for her not being an angel. Now it's common knowledge and lack of work that shows she is no longer an Angel, but no official source just words on a message board. Now with the facts of a 3 year contract, lack of appearances, lack of campaigns, and only 2 outfits in the fashion show when angels are guaranteed 3 and now a valid source I think it's pretty much safe to not include Karolina in the roster. Karolina is not yet famous enough to make a huge media buzz when she gets dropped from the squad so if we are waiting for more official word than what's been included it could be all the way up until November of 2009 when she's not on the angel roster, which makes the list inaccurate for more than half the year. --Preceding unsigned comment added by BahianChic (talk o contribs) 03:06, 1 February 2009 (UTC)
The remarks about Adriana not being at the appearance, was necessary if the images where brought up and she was missing it would have been asked. Anyway, actually Izabel was at the events with the angels and she was included in most of the mainstream beach photos as well. So that's not really a valid argument. For example Behati isn't an angel but appeared at the VS store gift appearance in Miami, but she isn't an angel. But for argument you could say Izabel wasn't there because she couldn't make it but she was at the other events. She was at the other events...what I'm saying is there is no valid source saying Izabel is no longer an angel. There won't be for Karolina either because of her status with the company. Like I said it would take most likely till next year to confirm this, while we could use the same logic that's being used for Izabel, and the fact it was on Fox News stating she was almost not included in the show when it's a proven fact the angels are given their spots in the show their is no almost. So if you're going to use lack of evidence to provide Izabel's stature the same should be used for Karolina who has even more stacking up that isn't in fact an angel. --Preceding unsigned comment added by BahianChic (talk o contribs) 04:44, 1 February 2009 (UTC)
I'll let you take this one, and when it's very much proven she's not an angel. Being credited in the show really means nothing, because her contract did expire in March, hence no campaigns, no commercials, and being replaced in the biofit campaign. Also hence the 2 outfits, and not even being promised a position in the show. But I'm not going to be the one who's going to look like a fool when more sources like fox news and askmen report on it...Also just so you know, what your doing for Izabel's stuff is ORIGINAL research...something you used on me...so again find a real source if you want to make it a valid argument. Like I said you won't find one because she wasn't famous enough to receive any press about it...same goes for KK. So like I said without a verified source you can't disclude Izabel from the line up and include KK when you don't have a source for Izabel and there are several sources backing up the fact KK is no longer an angel.
Exactly foxnews informs us she almost got cut. As a contracted victoria's Secret Angel...there is no chance of that, and that has been said in many articles. So with them informing us she almost got cut and was a last minute addition, it shows us she's not longer contracted. As well as the lack of campaigns, and being replaced in the biofit ads, and non appearances. Along with a reputable site backing up the claim she's no longer an angel backs up that fact. Like I said, it could be until next year with her lack of fame to find out. But with no appearances, replacement and lack of commercials, as well as fox news and askmen articles It's pretty safe to assume she's no longer an angel. --Preceding unsigned comment added by BahianChic (talk o contribs) 20:29, 1 February 2009 (UTC)
No please don't...I would rather never ask you anything. Anyway, once I find more reputable sources (which I love how you can have none or unreliable sources, or original research, but I have to have 2 or 3) you preach rules but break your own. You need to start practicing what you preach...Anyway, I'll update it..
I finally moved her to past. I found a document from CBSexpress which is a site that deals out press images and press releases to companies showcasing upcoming events. In the press release it announces all the angels except for Izabel and Karolina. This is no coincidence at this point. Karolina's contract expired in March 08 and she was not credited for that reason after loosing her contract. Izabel was not included either which we also found out because loss of contract. Every other angel is listed, I believe CBS is a pretty good source. Not that it matters but most people know that Karolina is no longer an angel and to find better proof than the CBS link is not going to be possible until the 2009 fashion show in November, which would leave this page incorrect for several months. I think this document is the evidence that was needed. --Preceding unsigned comment added by BahianChic (talk o contribs) 04:56, 28 February 2009 (UTC)
So again you break the other rules you force down everyone else throats along with never learning manners at all. By the way...then Selita needs to be removed because god knows If I did it or anyone else you'd claim it was wrong...but do it yourself gosh knows you won't be happy otherwise. Also don't preach something you don't follow yourself. --Preceding unsigned comment added by BahianChic (talk o contribs) 05:08, 4 March 2009 (UTC)
Needs a major overhaul/possible revert to earlier date.
The article in its present state is pathetic: it is far too short and 3/4's of it is about the fashion show and the angels.
-I suggest to clarify and remove clutter from this article that a separate article on the Victoria's Secret Fashion show(s) be created.
-That the section "Victoria's Secret Fashion Show" be redone as a brief synopsis of what it is rather than an attempt at an overview of its history and the history be moved to the proposed separate article.
Irishman76m (talk) 18:09, 24 May 2009 (UTC)
gr --Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.184.77.231 (talk) 19:16, 12 June 2009 (UTC)
Angels...
It seems our list of VS Angels is incorrect. VS put up a poll on its official Facebook asking who everyone's favorite Angel is, and the list includes Selita and Behati Prinsloo. Considering someone also emailed VS about the official Angel list several weeks ago and the person who responded also said Selita is still an Angel, it seems in all likelihood that she never lost her contract, unlike what one particular editor here so badly wants us to think. Mbinebri talk <- 18:40, 23 June 2009 (UTC) Then change it, if you think so She lost her contract --Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.224.70.245 (talk) 15:48, 28 October 2009 (UTC)
Since when Behati Prinsloo is an angel? I mean, she always takes place at the VS launches, but always as the spokesperson for PINK - so she has a similiar status of an angel, but she's not one actually! If so, she would have been an angel since 2008 and not 2009!
But there are differences between Ale, Miranda and Behati! Contract-Angels usually wear three outfits in the annual fashion show, and Behati only wears one outfit and only in the PINK-section. Furthermore, she wasn't featured in the christmas-commercial and she also doesn't have the same introduction in the CBS-version like the other contract-angels. I still believe that she's only the spokesperson for PINK but not an actual angel! --Preceding unsigned comment added by 58.62.42.195 (talk) 17:00, 9 January 2010 (UTC)
Aaah, bad argument to say that non-angels were also featured in the christmas-commercial! Victoria's Secret always featured non-angels to appear in their christmas commercials: Emanuele de Paula, for instance, in the 2008 christmas-commercial and Ana Hickmann, Angela Lindvall, Oluchi Onweagba and some others in previous commercials. I mean, I just saw a short footage of the first tape of the 2009-fashion show, and Behati wasn't even posing with the other angels in the front, but somewhere else. When it comes to "Oops, our bad!": I mean, they already made the mistake to introduce Emanuela, Rosie, Candice, Lindsay and Chanel on their official facebook-site with angel-profiles and later they changed it into "new faces". I mean, I was probably the only person that didn't believe it unlike others until Victoria's Secret clarified it! So I think my intuition on Behati's-case is rightly the same! Maybe Victoria's Secret itself doesn't even know who is a contract-angel and who not! xD --Preceding unsigned comment added by 58.62.42.200 (talk) 14:51, 10 January 2010 (UTC)
Terrorism
there are rumors out there that VS was a common target of terrorist attacks in Israel before the Israeli defence wall was built and that locations in Manila and Madrid were also attacked and that a D.C. sniper killing occured on the other side of a mall with a VS location. is any of this true? if so than list these attacks. At the vary least tell us what countries VS operates in. --Preceding unsigned comment added by 63.27.112.218 (talk) 19:03, 30 June 2009 (UTC) --Preceding unsigned comment added by 63.27.102.44 (talk)
whatever. More fear mongering. Don't believe everything you hear.
see also: Irina Sheik
Mikiemike (talk) 21:47, 18 August 2009 (UTC)
Catalogues
Soemone it should be mentioned about the infamous/famous christmas dreams and fantasies, its swimsuit issues, and its valentine's day catalogue.--Cooly123 00:04, 28 October 2009 (UTC) --Preceding unsigned comment added by Cooly123 (talk o contribs)
There is no real proof or documentation that wasn't pulled from the VS facebook that the "new angels" are in fact correct. CBS didn't even have those names correct, nor one of their "new angels" in the show. Part of an angel contract is to be present for the show. Erin was never listed on facebook as one of the "new angels" even when they did make the mistake in doing that. VS instantly took that down, and replaced it with "new faces" Emanuela wasn't in the show at all, which she would have been contracted to appear. I don't think their really is enough documentation (that wasn't pulled from facebook or etc) that guarantees them as angels, and should be removed. --Preceding unsigned comment added by BahianChic (talk o contribs) 05:56, 5 December 2009 (UTC)
Who is?
Anyone know who this model is? I could not find her in the list of models? I just saw her for the first time in the latest catalogue. http://www2.victoriassecret.com/images/prodpri2/V292112.jpg --Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.158.33.203 (talk) 05:14, 17 December 2009 (UTC)
Kylie Bissutti is not a full angel. According to the vs all access page, she is simply a runway angel. And as much as it really kills me to say this, Marisa Miller is no longer listed as one of the supermodels which is basically the list of angels. --Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.197.10.116 (talk) 01:30, 19 December 2009 (UTC)
Thank you for explaining, Mbinebri. --Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.197.10.116 (talk) 14:34, 19 December 2009 (UTC)
Adriana Lima 1998.
Adriana started working for the company in 1998, it's been stated by Ed Razek in several interviews. Also, Adriana's first national campaign was the Spring 1999 Cotton Collection, now it's not officially stated anywhere but everyone knows that VS shoots their spring campaigns in the winter before (Alessandra Ambrosio's twitter, she states she's shooting spring as of right now) so that would have made her shooting the campaign and commercial in late 1998. --Preceding unsigned comment added by BahianChic (talk o contribs) 12:53, 25 December 2009 (UTC)
In the VH-1 special of the "Angel Across America tour", Ed Razek said that Adriana started working with them, when she was 16 years old! Since Adriana Lima was born in summer 1981, she had to be already working with them before summer 1998 because that's the year when she actually turned 17! --Preceding unsigned comment added by 58.62.42.223 (talk) 13:05, 6 January 2010 (UTC)
Well, when Ed Razek was talking about her working with them since she's 16 years old, they rolled a picture around that showed Adriana in a commercial-shoot that resembled the first angel-campaign, which was done in 1998. I think Adriana didn't even know if she was sure when she supposedly said she began at 18. I mean, we all know for sure that she walked the Victoria's Secret Fashion Show 1999, which was held in February, and by that time she was 17! --Preceding unsigned comment added by 58.62.42.195 (talk) 17:15, 9 January 2010 (UTC)
I'm getting it from the fact that a first job is a FIRST job, thus the VSFS 99 can only be a second job, thus happening afterwards. This is further backed up by the upper cited VH1 Special which has Razek saying that he thought Lima loooked like a baby when he first saw her and then the camera started rolling, once again placing this shoot (or at least a shoot) before the 99 show, as well as an E! video I once saw on Youtube and will do my best to find. Also, the table lists "Hiring" not "Publishing", "Airing" or "Walking". And finally, if Wikipedia is about consensus (see the Ellingson debate below), the consensus here is against you. --Preceding unsigned comment added by 79.84.98.77 (talk) 21:42, 13 December 2010 (UTC)
Details of founder's suicide
"Raymond's next business venture ended in bankruptcy. Raymond killed himself by jumping from the Golden Gate Bridge in San Francisco.[4]" Is this relevant at all to this article? However tragic, the details of any other business venture by Raymond and the information about his suicide don't seem to belong here. On an article solely about him, yes. 24.171.63.113 (talk) 20:28, 4 January 2010 (UTC)
New Angels
The following models were added to the Angel's roster: Chanel Iman, Emanuela de Paula, Lindsay Ellingson, Candice Swanepoel, Rosie Huntington-Whiteley. Edit the page accordingly. --Preceding unsigned comment added by Tmdoxie (talk o contribs) 03:18, 22 January 2010 (UTC)
Former VS Angels list accuracy
No, no, don't worry, this isn't about the always-confusing topic of who currently is an Angel, but instead about who really have been Angels in the past. The former Angels list is only sourced for models we know unquestionably to have been Angels because they're fairly recent. So who was verifiably among the early Angels? This source says: "Among the "Angels" used in the original promotion were Argentine model Maria Ines Rivero, Brazilian beauty Adriana Lima, German enchantress Heidi Klum (pronounced "Kloom"), feisty American Rebecca Romijn, and the luscious Tyra Banks (the first black model to make the cover of Sports Illustrated swimsuit issue)." It also says the Angels debuted in 1999. These points throw the accuracy of the list we have into question (although the accuracy of the source is also questionable). The article goes on to have Stephanie Seymour explain the origin of the Angel concept, so if we throw her in, that gives us Rivero, Lima, Klum, Romijn, Banks, and Seymour as early Angels. That leaves out Christensen, Ghauri, Casta, Mulder, and Pestova, all of whom our list has as original Angels with no support. Do we have sources on them truly being Angels. I'm a little concerned that over time, editors added prominent names to the list because they wanted to, no one objected, and people came to accept the list as true. Same with the dates. Where did they come from? How do we know they're not completely made up? So does anyone have sources? The Angels have always gotten a lot of press, so if these models--Christensen, Ghauri, etc.--were Angels, surely there are sources somewhere saying so. If not, they should be removed. Mbinebri talk <- 22:22, 5 February 2010 (UTC)
Well, there is this vid on youtube, and it shows five models shooting the first ANGEL-campaigne, also including Daniela Pestova, Helena Christensen and Karen Mulder (named as angels at 4:29). Here's the vid: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kn5L8PLoGzY&feature=related --Preceding unsigned comment added by 220.255.94.61 (talk) 04:02, 17 February 2010 (UTC)
Here's another article http://www.askmen.com/celebs/keywords/victorias-secret-angels.html : This time mentioning Laetitia Casta as an Angel, besides Seymour and Banks. So actually you can find the proof that those models were Angels. It's not your prerogative to omit the names without even doing research. --Preceding unsigned comment added by 220.255.94.61 (talk) 10:20, 17 February 2010 (UTC)
LOL, if you supposedly did research you would have keep the names of Casta, Christensen, Mulder and Pestova. It wasn't difficult at all to find those references, so I don't know what kind of research you did, but surely not a good one. You are the one who contradicts himself. --Preceding unsigned comment added by 220.255.7.156 (talk) 04:41, 18 February 2010 (UTC)
Since you want to discuss it here: Romijn never wore wings, nor was she ever in an Angel commercial. Rivero has been in campaigns, but a lot of models have been too and that doesn't make them Angels (see Onweagba, Barros, Fontana...). The Angels are always credited at the beginning of fashion shows broadcasts right? Well Casta and Klum were in 1999, Bundchen in 2001... I won't list them all I don't have time but you can check on youtube/megavideo/whatever. And the Angels concept started out as a lingerie line, then the commercial beame popular and VS thought "hey why not use them in our show", as seen in the video above, which happened in 1998. The source about Rivero, Romijn and so on is mistaken, so is the askmen one, they both list non Angels as Angels, I wouldn't consider them reliable. And I can find sources that say that De Paula is an angel, does that mean she is? No. --Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.68.126.124 (talk) 17:05, 5 March 2010 (UTC)
Finally someone who paid attention! YES, the angel-concept started as a line and then was firstly featured in the 1998 show! Seriously I never had the impression that Romijn and Rivero were angels nor Ghauri, who just signed up for a contract in 1992, but that's before VS started the whole angel-concept! As for de Paula: It's clear for a while that she's not an angel (yet). --Preceding unsigned comment added by 58.62.42.227 (talk) 05:21, 9 March 2010 (UTC)
VS All Access page
I probably should have brought this up earlier, but it seems more an issue now then ever, so here it is. We need to come to a consensus of whether we should continue to use the VS All Access "Supermodels" list as an official Angels list (which is what is being done, although it's not used as a cited source). Earlier last year, the list only included what we knew to be the Angels, and it was a small group. Since then, VS has added numerous names to the list and judging from the forums I've been on, it seems many people are not convinced anymore that to be on the list actually verifies Angel status--if it was an Angels list, why is it not called that? It says "Supermodels," not Angels, so the list might be including lesser contracted models as well. If that's the case, we're essentially spreading false information here. Plus, we don't have verification from reliable sources for many of the new names, so perhaps they should be omitted until proper sourcing comes along. Opinions? Mbinebri talk <- 17:15, 3 March 2010 (UTC)
From that day on they promoted "Behati Prinsloo" as an Angel, I've never seen Angel All Access as a reliable source to confirm a model whether is or is not an angel. The credibility of that list is as inaccurate as the official facebook-page of Victoria's Secret. I gotta agree that I've never heard of Romijn and Rivero as angels either, and YES! Finally someone who knows also that the Angel-concept was already used in 1998! --Preceding unsigned comment added by 58.62.42.202 (talk) 11:27, 5 March 2010 (UTC)
I don't thinkg Angels-All-Access is a reliable source... there was a time when they omitted Marisa's profile and now she's strangely back on the site...? --Preceding unsigned comment added by 58.62.42.202 (talk) 11:58, 5 March 2010 (UTC)
If we used our common sense, then we should know that not every model mentioned in the supermodel-list is a contract-Angel. Why should a company pay 10 models a six-figure-contract during the economic crisis?? --Preceding unsigned comment added by 58.62.42.236 (talk) 14:02, 6 March 2010 (UTC)
It doesn't make sense that Marisa's contract expired earlier this year since she was contracted in the end of 2007, which actually means her contract would be up for the end of this year - not the beginning! @Mbineri: come on! I posted you a youtube-video with the beginning of the Angels (remember?) and they featured footage of the 1998 fashion show, saying THAT's the debut of the Angels in the fashion show! --Preceding unsigned comment added by 58.62.42.211 (talk) 04:19, 7 March 2010 (UTC)
TV Acres
Using this as a source is proof of lack of common sense. The source lists Romijn as part of the "original Angels of 1999" and then goes on to list the models who took part in that same show, amongst whom Romijn is not. If the source is contradicting itself, I say remove it. Especially when we have a clear source that states that the original Angels were Pestova, Banks, Seymour, Mulder and Christensen/North and that they started in 1998, for which we even have pictures (try getty images, Mbinebri). --Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.194.35.225 (talk) 12:58, 9 March 2010 (UTC)
Romijn was never in the 1999 show. That's just total crap like believing Klum was in the 2006-show just because she's an angel. @mbinebri: I think this site should be supervised by a Victoria's Secret-expert and you are certainly not one. --Preceding unsigned comment added by 58.62.42.215 (talk) 10:21, 11 March 2010 (UTC)
Ahem, he/she did. The third to last section is proof of that. --Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.194.35.225 (talk) 17:46, 12 March 2010 (UTC)
well, it doesn't change the fact that you are not a Victoria's Secret expert, and I just give you the video-link because that was the only way to convince you that Christensen, Mulder and Pestova were angels which you would have already known if you would've been a VS expert. --Preceding unsigned comment added by 58.62.42.193 (talk) 16:13, 12 March 2010 (UTC)
Angels sources
The first Angels commercial was filmed in 1997, not 1998. http://www.herbritts.com/images/commercials/ Christensen's last one was the English Lace commercial in 1998. North's only Angel involvement was the 1998 runway.
Casta, like Klum, is credited at the beginning of the 1999 broadcast and wears wings in it, I guess that makes her a 1999 Angel, just like Klum.
Lima was made and Angel in 2001, not 2000. She is clearly absent from the line-up (Bundchen, Klum, Pestova & Banks) given at the very beginning of the 2001 show broadcast and its Angel commercial, but present in the 2001 What is Sexy commercial. Accordingly, Mulder and Seymour had been removed of the line-up prior to the 2001 show.
Casta's and Pestova's exits are tricky as they did Angels commercials and appearances at least until 2003 (a quick youtube/getty images search would confirm that, however I have yet to find a WP:RS) but their last FS were in 2000 and 2001 respectively.
If we list the Pink spokespersons, we can list Iman, Heatherton and Ellingson as "supermodels" with a line explaining that starting in 2009-2010, VS started referring to some models as such (the Angels and those 3. --Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.194.35.225 (talk) 18:05, 12 March 2010 (UTC)
Actually, it sounds more accurate that the angels-campaign first started in 1997 because back then the fashion show was always held around Valentine's day - so at the beginning at a year not at the end like nowadays. E! had a special about the first angels and they said that they (Banks, Pestova, Christensen, Mulder and Seymour) were known as "the angels". So the first campaign had do be published in 1997, so the angels had time to become known at first before the 1998 show was held in February. --Preceding unsigned comment added by 58.62.42.223 (talk) 05:59, 13 March 2010 (UTC)
VS's facebook-page is as much unreliable as the VS allaccess-page ;-) --Preceding unsigned comment added by 58.62.42.206 (talk) 10:08, 15 March 2010 (UTC)
Ghauri as an Angel 1998: http://img133.imagevenue.com/img.php?loc=loc337&image=96595_1998_03_vsc_spring_v4_4_0_tyra_yasmeen_stephanie_h_122_337lo.jpg
Casta and Banks 1998 http://img151.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=69285_1998-11-vsc-xmas-2-1-tyra-laetitia-h-afx_122_955lo.jpg
Rivero, Casta, Mulder, Pestova, Banks, Seymour in 1998 http://img189.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=70431_1998-11-vsc-xmas-8-0-steph-daniela-laetitia-karen-ines-tyra-h_122_472lo.jpg
Casta, Klum, Pëstova, Muler, Banks Seymour in 2000--Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.69.92.113 (talk) 23:33, 14 April 2010 (UTC) --Preceding unsigned comment added by 79.84.98.239 (talk)
Christensen, Seymour, Banks, Petsova, Mulder in 1998: http://img132.imagevenue.com/img.php?loc=loc384&image=96576_1998_03_vsc_spring_v4_2_0_daniela_helena_stephanie_tyra_karen_h_122_384lo.jpg
Erin Heatherton http://abclocal.go.com/wls/story?section=resources/lifestyle_community&id=7269371 --Preceding unsigned comment added by 79.84.98.239 (talk) 14:43, 22 April 2010 (UTC)
Forbes
According to this: http://www.forbes.com/2010/05/12/top-earning-models-business-entertainment-models.html Doutzen Kroes is their last Angel. So none of Prinsloo, Swaenepoel and Huntington are Angels. At this point it is also debatable whether Miller is still an Angel or has been downgraded.
As far as dates go:
- Helena Christensen: 1997 original commercial-1998 English Lace
- Stephanie Seymour: 1997 original commercial-2000 Cannes show
- Karen Mulder: 1997 original commercial-2000 Cannes show
- Daniela Pestova: 1997 original commercial-2001 show
- Tyra Banks: 1997 original commercial-2005 show
- Chandra North: 1998 fashion show
- Ines Rivero: 1998 Angels 2000 campaign-1998 Christmas Angels
- Laetitia Casta: 1997 Christmas commercial (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a_dvboorgsc) -2000 Cannes show
- Yasmeen Ghauri: 1998 Angels in the catalog
- Adriana Lima: June 2000 Arena cover-ongoing --Precedingunsigned comment added by 86.212.253.80 (talk) 18:38, 15 May 2010 (UTC)
Yeah, that was my same thought when I saw the forbes article, claiming Doutzen being the last contracted angel. I think we have to wait for this year's fashion show to see who will be included in the introduction. I know, last year the intro also featured Swanepoel, Huntington, Ellingson, Prinsloo and Heatherton, but their intros were a bit different than the real angel's intros. When it comes to Huntington, I don't think her source claiming her being an official angel is accurate. It's not an interview, it's an article calling her an angel, but I also saw an article on essence.com claiming Chanel Iman being an angel. When it comes to Swanepoel, I think she's an angel because she said she was made an angel a couple months ago in that Cosmopolitan-interview. I don't think she's a liar. I know, Adriana allegedly once said she started working with VS when she was 18, although she walked the 1999 show when she was 17, but you can confuse your age at certain events, but being an angel, you cannot confuse it - either you signed a contract or you didn't. Or she was simply misquoted in that interview. As for Prinsloo: I never thought she was an angel. She should be removed from that list. I mean, how could you possibly sign a 6-figure-angel-contract by doing nothing than PINK and not even standing next to the other angels during the last year's 1st taping of the fashion show. Plus: She was never featured in the forbes-list although she's supposedly an angel since 2008. I know she also claimed to be an angel in that Cosmopolitan-interview, but I think she entitled herself being one since she's the PINK spokesperson. --Preceding unsigned comment added by 58.62.42.224 (talk) 14:31, 28 May 2010 (UTC)
VS produced a video congratulating RHW for landing the role in Transformers 3, and it refers to her as an Angel. You can watch it here. Mbinebri talk <- 13:46, 1 June 2010 (UTC)
Seems like we have to wait for this year's introduction of the fashion show which is like the most accurate source we have. Yes, I know there have been Lindsay, Behati, Erin, Rosie and Candice in last year's intro as well, but like I said their intros were a little different from the real angel's intros (Alessandra, Miranda, Marisa and Doutzen posing backstage). --Preceding unsigned comment added by 58.62.42.224 (talk) 15:02, 2 June 2010 (UTC)
Personally I think that Behati being a PINK spokesmodel must be an Angel as she's done work for VS as well, then Rosie probably is with the Transformers preview, and also because there's a YOUTube video of her and Alessandra's lives as Angels. Then Candice has so much work for the brand I think there's a great possibility she is one, but I don't think Erin, Chanel, or Lindsay are just yet. --Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.197.10.116 (talk) 15:35, 15 July 2010 (UTC)
Victoria's Secret gradually uses the term "angel" as loosely as other media as well. Lindsay is most def not an angel because she was heavily used by them like a season and now she's kinda gone. It's all about Candice, Rosie, Erin and Chanel now to become the new angels, but like I said - the term is used so loosely nowadays that we can't even recognize a truly new angel if there's a new one. --Preceding unsigned comment added by 58.62.42.235 (talk) 01:56, 22 September 2010 (UTC)
Ghauri listed but not North?
Can somebody explain the rationale? --Preceding unsigned comment added by 148.234.27.118 (talk) 21:31, 9 August 2010 (UTC)
Reorganization for Angels table
First off, I can see that creating the recent table was a lot of work, and it does look clean creating a sort of timeline rather than separate "current" and "former" lists, but it's a big enough change to warrant a consensus first, and there are some issues. For example, what evidence is there to back up the "first contract" dates? How do we even know the models were contracted on these dates anyway? The table supports that there is officially a contracted "Supermodel" status, when there are no sources that I know of that actually address this - it's still fan speculation. It also basically says not only that Supermodel status encapsulates Angel status but even trumps it (via the bolding). Maybe the would-be reference that the editor attempted using (the ref contained no actual link) would have cleared some of this up, but w/o that link, the table just looks like a fan reinterpretation. Mbinebri talk <- 15:22, 1 October 2010 (UTC)
Heidi Klum is American too
To the person who keeps removing the flag in front of her name, please check your facts: http://celebritybabies.people.com/2009/03/09/heidi-klum-becomes-a-citizen-for-her-children/ --Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.141.40.83 (talk) 14:03, 7 November 2010 (UTC)
Re-adding the Supermodels
Not that I'm against the idea (hence the line about the 13-supermodel line-up), but most of the sources used pre-date the Forbes article that stated Doutzen was the last sign up adn as far as the "Angel line-up" goes, the CBS press release made it clear that all models who take part are Runway Angels, so yeah... Thoughts? --Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.194.35.225 (talk) 17:25, 8 November 2010 (UTC)
I'm gonna go out a limb and say we add Ellingson as well. I'll leav her as past Angel for the time being due to her uncredited status, but obviously Supermodel=Angel. --Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.194.35.225 (talk) 12:42, 26 November 2010 (UTC)
Is it just me or have the numerous IPs editing this page become incapable of discussion or even edit summaries? Mbinebri talk <- 18:57, 27 November 2010 (UTC)
I kinda gave up to understand who is a real angel and who's not. As for Ellingson, I wouldn't add her name because an angel-contract last at least for 3 years and she was barely 1 year in demand as a "supermodel". However, maybe VS is changing its contracts, including the duration and the worth which why they can suddenly afford so many models at the same time. Like I said - I kinda gave up to understand that whole "angel/supermodel/bombshell"-system.--58.62.42.215 (talk) 07:58, 28 November 2010 (UTC)
Ellingson followed the exact same pattern as the rest: commercial (Christmas for Ellingson, Huntington & Swanepoel, Nakeds for Iman and Heatherton, Biofit for Aldridge), followed by Angel profile on facebook, followed by addition on VSAA. She was also photographed amongst the current and ex-Angels and PINK Girls present at this year's VSFS pre-show event. Conversely, none of those criteria are met by other spokesmodels (i.e. Niaria, Decker, Mariano, Carvahlo & Sosa) except for De Paula who only meets one (the profile, which was promptly rectified as "new face"). While she probably isn't an Angel now, Ellingson clearly was one earlier this year.81.194.35.225 (talk) 18:19, 29 November 2010 (UTC)
I do believe in the 3-year contract thing since KK, Selita and Izabel and Marisa all left after 3 years - I don't think it's a coincidence that all left after 3 years. On another note: Why is Chanel an Angel? She's not even 21! Well, I guess VS contradicts itself again... like for the 200th times?? --58.62.42.218 (talk) 13:16, 2 December 2010 (UTC)
When Casta, Lima and Bundchen got signed, it was a totally different time. Rules have changed! - just like the age for models to walk the show. Back then, KK walked her first show with 16, but now (because of CBS rules) VS can only let models walk the show that are at least 18. That's why Chanel said she couldn't walk the 2008-show because she was still 17 by that time. As for Prinsloo - when she got signed in 2008, she got signed to become the PINK-spokesmodel and not an Angel. I still doubt that she was made an Angel this year along with the other bunch of girls, but at least it fits "my theory" - now she's 21, but Chanel isn't. That's why I'm still suspicious that six (!) girls became Angels in one year (??). But like I said - VS has become unreasonable and therefore some kind of a joke to me... or rules just have changed again.--58.62.42.215 (talk) 09:35, 7 December 2010 (UTC)
Revamped table
I have edited the table so that the columns are all sortable and formatted the names so they sort by last name and added country names so they too are sortable. -- Brangifer (talk) 07:09, 8 January 2011 (UTC)
Lindsay Ellingson
I removed Lindsay Ellingson from the Angels-list. I mean, seriously?? She was credited in 2009, and was given the boot in 2010 and now in 2011 she's in again? As we know by now, it's tougher to separate the true angels from the so-called angels than any case Agatha Christie has ever written but I don't think an angel-contract works like "2009 you're in, 2010 not, and 2011 you're in again"--VSfan88 (talk) 19:39, 13 January 2011 (UTC)
If she was an Angel at some point why is she listed as one of the current Angels? Besides that, Arlenis Sosa was booked for one VS campaign, but then her footage (alongside Alessandra's) was not used for the commercial, but before the commercial was released she was previewed on VS facebook-page as the new Angel. Does that mean she was also "an Angel at some point" and should be included in the list? And besides that, Heidi and Marisa are still listed among the 13 models on the vsallaccess-page. Does that also mean they're still Angels??--VSfan88 (talk) 06:21, 14 January 2011 (UTC)
If you argue with how many times Lindsay was booked by VS, does that mean Oluchi Onweagba is also an Angel? I mean, she was also booked multiple times, been in a VS x-mas commercial and did promotion for VS lookbook besides Heidi, Adriana and Gisele (who are/were well-known Angels). I'm suspicious in the case of Lindsay Ellingson because she was credited in the 2009-show and then she had to go to the regular castings for the 2010-show which is not necessary if you were a contracted Angel (on top of that she wasn't credited for the 2010-show) and now she's mysteriously back on the heights of being an Angel? But pardon me, I totally forgot that everything is accepted as true as long an official website says so without using one's common sense to see if the info sounds right. That's why there was a time when the wiki-page said that Emanuela, Chanel, Candice, Rosie and Lindsay are the 5 new Angels because VS facebook-page claimed so and then that info was deleted because VS facebook-page suddenly change it to 5 new faces and not "5 new Angels".--VSfan88 (talk) 09:19, 16 January 2011 (UTC)
Last year Prinsloo, Swanepoel, Huntington, Heatherton and Iman weren't thought to be Angels because Forbes.com said Doutzen Kroes was the last model that became an Angel and over fashionspot.com (which is known for having members with connnections to fashion people) the ppl still claim that Ale, Adriana, Miranda and Doutzen are the only models with the true Angel-contract. Well, it's not that serious to me anyway. If the Wiki-page says Ellingson is an Angel because VS official-whatnot-sites say so, then it's not Wiki's, but VS's false for spreading confusing information for about 2 years by now.--VSfan88 (talk) 15:52, 18 January 2011 (UTC)
Monikangana Dutta
A user added Dutta to the list of Angels but I've removed the claim because of how dubious it is. That I can see, the information is totally based on Dutta telling the Indian press she's an Angel. Quite frankly, that means little. Any celebrity can make such a claim and expect the press to repeat it, especially when the (foreign) press consistently doesn't seem to know what an "Angel" is. Is Dutta listed as a contracted model on the VS All Access page? Has she ever shot for VS? Has the American media get in on the story? That I can tell, no. Even the Indian FHM piece questioned the claim as a hoax and Dutta backtracked and could only say she's contracted to VS but that it's a secret. That's a threadbare claim, and stronger arguments than that haven't got models on this list. Until she does something as an Angel to back up her initial claims, she doesn't belong listed as one. Mbinebri talk <- 16:06, 9 February 2011 (UTC)
Removing Rosie
She hasn't worked with the brand for a yea (aside from the 2010 show, obviously) and she is not listed in this year's press release, should we finally go ahead? -- Preceding unsigned comment added by 79.87.115.1 (talk) 21:51, 6 September 2011 (UTC)
I read several articles about her that refers to her as a former Victoria's secret model but there are still some articles that refers to her as "Victoria's secret angel". I think it's safer to wait for this year's fashion show and see if she will be included in the Angels intro unless you got a source that is mainly and trustworthy about her departure from VS. --210.38.110.232 (talk) 09:08, 14 September 2011 (UTC)
Some missing element
" the Angels started out as Victoria's Secret's lingerie line" Something's missing here, as the phrase makes no sense as it stands.--Wetman (talk) 16:53, 10 September 2012 (UTC)
Parking Suspicious Content
Parking - Many fashion historians believe...
WestportWiki (talk) 17:25, 9 October 2012 (UTC)
Source
I came across this source in improving the article on Playtex and thought it would be immensely helpful here.[1] Corporate 14:10, 11 December 2012 (UTC)
Significant copy edit required
This article has numerous problems. The lead section "generally doesn't contain citations" unless the facts are controversial, and 8 citations for a single fact is excessive. One citation is adequate, unless the fact is controversial, when another citation from a reputable source may be appropriate. The lead doesn't adequately summarize the entire article.
The article contains too many subheads, making the body very choppy, as in the section 1983-1990: Expansion into malls, which is composed of 8 paragraphs and 12 sentences, and other sub-sections in the History section. This is an encyclopedia article and it doesn't need to capture the company's entire history. The history section could be substantially improved if only the notable facts about the company's history were retained. There are other facts that aren't as presented particularly notable, like the Music CDs. Either this and other sections like it need more exposition to explain what's notable about them, or they just ought to be removed.
The article is very choppy. All of the information about its subsidiary Pink (Current Pink products, Pink spokesmodels,) ought to be consolidated into a single section devoted to that business. The section on Executives doesn't need three subsections for each subsidiary, which doesn't appear to be complete, as the leadership of Pink is not listed. The Corporate Affairs section is chronologically confusing. Just list the name changes and owners in order. The language is often cryptic and note-like. The sections on Controversies and Criticism either ought to be expanded or removed to the talk page until someone has time to do that work.
The company's marketing practices have generated ongoing controversy, including their use of teen heart-throb Justin Bieber "on the stage as models wearing the colorful Pink line cotton panties and bras strutted across the stage," obvious retouching models photos, Karlie Kloss wearing an racially-insensitive Indian headdress on stage, their use of black models, their use of mannequins in store windows, and so forth.
The article includes citations using naked URLs that need to be cleaned up. There's lots more that could be done, but these steps would be a good start. For more help, refer to fixing the body. -- btphelps (talk) (contribs) 08:02, 28 March 2013 (UTC)
overlinked
To clarify for all other editors: This is tagged as overlinked because some links are duplicated. Thank you user:Toccata quarta for helping with this. R00m c (talk) 14:37, 3 June 2013 (UTC)
How many stores, again?
I've added a tag over this.
There were, apparently, 4 stories in 1982; but immediately before the sale there were either 3 stores or 6 stores, depending which article you read.-- Preceding unsigned comment added by Drianmcdonald (talk o contribs) 20:45, 25 September 2013 (UTC)
Lily Aldrige
Please incluse a photo of the current angel the lovely Lily Aldridge, she deserves it 204.99.118.9 (talk) 00:08, 14 January 2014 (UTC)
2014 - archiving of TP
i propose we set up auto-archiving for this talk page. Anyone object? Concur? Thoughts on parameters for misza bot (sp?)? How many threads should we leave here current? all hose not active in last 30 or 60 days or more still or less or?? Thanks! Azx2 10:32, 2 February 2014 (UTC)
Adriana Lima's contract
Adriana Lima is listed as signed in 2000 (probably due to VH1 special on the Angels Across America tour, which states that her performance in Cannes elevated her to Angel status) but it seems weird because: 1) Lima doesn't appear in 2001 show opening: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bOoNNTGcxlg 2) In this video she states that "They chose [her] to be there" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TH6VGklUb5A, implying she was not an Angel at the time, otherwise the show would have been in her contract 3) This video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6NZB1YFUSz4 features an interview by Monica Mitro, which can be dated to 2001 (see the above one), where she talks about Lima as one of their future big girls, implying she was not yet contracted with them at the time. 4) Her first event for the brand as a spokesperson was in 2002 whereas all the other Angels have had events scheduled much earlier into their contract.
So at best, Lima was contracted in the last days of 2001 and more likely in 2002 or 2003. 90.35.167.14 (talk) 17:56, 18 January 2015 (UTC)
the sources that you give still don't validate that she was contracted later than in 2000 as the points you're giving are not merely more than speculations that can be refuted as follows: 1) Selita Ebanks and Izabel Goulart are also not credited in the 2005 show intro, even though they were already contracted by that time. 2) It could mean that she wasn't an Angel by that time, but it could also mean that she's all in all happy that VS picked her to work with them. 3) I think you were missing the point when Mitro said that about Lima. See, new Angels don't become household names overnight. It barely happens that new Angels become household names in the very same year they got contracted. It usually takes years, e.g. in Miranda Kerr's case: she was contracted in 2007, but she became famous not until 2009 when she started dating Orlando Bloom. Another example is Gisele Bündchen who was contracted in 2000 but became a real household name not until she started dating Leonardo DiCaprio and got the record-breaking-$30-million-VS-contract in 2003. You might as well can look at the current Angel-squad. Some of them are also not known to the general public, even though most of them have been Angels for years. 4) Lima's English was limited in the early 2000's (to a certain extend, her English is still limited to this date!), so there you have your reason why they could have been reluctant to send her on events to TALK.
Furthermore, I would like to say that I would never trust Lima when it comes to the chronological order of her career. She also said in the 2011-show that her first show was in 2000, and as we all know that's wrong. -- Preceding unsigned comment added by VSfan88 (talk o contribs) 21:13, 18 January 2015 (UTC)
None of what you stated actually disproves the points made above 90.35.229.182 (talk) 16:55, 1 March 2015 (UTC)
Elsa Hosk
Dear VSfan88, while it has been reported by several sites that she may be an Angel, so have plenty of models, such as Monikangana Dutta, Emanuela De Paula, Toni Garnn and many many more. However non of them have been listed on VS All Access's Supermodel page where every single Victoria's Secret Angel since 2009 has been listed. Until she appears there, please refrain from adding her. I also suggest you read Wikipedia:Ownership of articles. Regards 90.35.229.182 (talk) 16:55, 1 March 2015 (UTC)
Victoria's Secret has finally updated the supermodel-list on its website vsallaccess.com and to my very big surprise Elsa Hosk is not included. Even though a lot of actually reliable sources stated she's become an Angel in 2014, she's not an Angel for the moment.--VSfan88 (talk) 17:59, 26 April 2015 (UTC)
Sara Sampaio
I am adding to this talk page because there is no activity on Sara's page. I would like help adding to her page. If you read below:
Proposed changes: The purpose of this project is to add credibility to Sara Sampaio's page by editing her current career section and personal life. Her career could include: how she started in the business, how she has progressed, what she has done, and what she plans to do in the future. Her personal life should include: Where and how did she grow up, what she enjoys doing, her views on things she is passionate about (body image and nudity),her personal relationships to her coworkers (other VS models), and maybe adding a picture as well.
The presentation of the information will be in sections of her career and personal life. While there is little to no existing content, the purpose of this page will be to start adding to the page. She is already a well renowned supermodel, but once she walks the runway in December, her page will be especially important. My plan for this wiki page is too provide interesting information on Sara Sampaio. As an upcoming star, I would think there is more information on her, but unfortunately there is not. This is the information I have edited so far and the sources I have used to do so:
Sara was discovered at the age of 15, but because she was still too young, she was asked to come back when she was older. Sara started modeling when she won a hair modeling contest in Portugal at the age of 16 called Cabelos Pantene. She had the chance to be in a commercial in Portugal. She got signed to an agency, but because of her strict parents, she had to finish high school, and went to the University in Lisbon. She was doing part time because she was not allowed to be homeschooled. While in Lisbon, she did editorial part time until she had the opportunity to go international. Sara's dream was to work for Victoria's Secret. Her agency sent in headshots, and she was asked to audition, but did not make it on the show. She worked very hard to be chosen for Victoria's Secret Fashion Show. After her third year audition, she made her debut in 2013 walking one segment of the VS Fashion Show and two segments in 2014.She was recently chosen as one of the newest angels for the 2015 runway, and this December will be the first year she walks the runway as an angel.
Sara Sampaio grew up in the outskirts of Porto, Portugal, then moved to New York to start her career. She stated in an interview that she intends to keep her personal life very private[15]. In her free time she loves to surf and kick box. She is a brown belt in karate and is currently learning to play the guitar.
Seemayer, Zach (July 29, 2015). "Victoria's Secret Newest Angles on How they Plan to Keep Their Personal Lives Private". ET. Web. Retrieved November 5, 2015. -- Preceding unsigned comment added by Montse03 (talk o contribs) 23:26, 5 November 2015 (UTC)
Harris, Taylor. "Model Call: Sara Sampaio". WWD online. <http://wwd.com/eye/fashion/model-call-sara-sampaio-5095148/> August 30, 2011. Web. Retrieved November 5, 2015.
Victoria's Secret Official. "Sara Sampan on Becoming a Victoria's Secret Angel". <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mx7YCy9b7Kk> August 22, 2015. Web. Retrieved on November 5, 2015. -- Preceding unsigned comment added by Montse03 (talk o contribs) 23:05, 5 November 2015 (UTC)
If anyone has more information or knows sources that could work to add on to her career and personal life information, please post.
My outline consists of:
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my wife owns the shoes from our wedding which took place in 1963 in Brooklyn,N.Y. which are cleary stamped "Victoria Secret. If the company was founded in 1977, why was the name used 13 years earlier?Please explain. -- Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.81.73.147 (talk) 00:54, 30 March 2016 (UTC)
New NEWS today, for future editing
What will happen? Nothing? Quo Vadis?
Headline-1: Investors Rattled After Victoria's Secret CEO Quits Suddenly
- http://fortune.com/2016/02/12/victorias-secret-ceo/
QUOTE: "Victoria's Secret CEO Sharen Jester Turney has quit unexpectedly, news that stoked investor anxiety about the prospects for L Brands' LB -1.32% biggest business by far. Shares were down 5% midday on Friday. ... Turney, who took the helm in 2006, helped turn Victoria's Secret into a cultural touchstone." -- AstroU (talk) 15:37, 7 April 2016 (UTC) -- PS: FYI for future editing.
charleshoover523@yahoo.com -- Preceding unsigned comment added by 64.28.57.156 (talk) 19:07, 19 May 2016 (UTC)
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